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INTERVIEW With Timothy Good, October 9, 2007

INTERVIEW With Timothy Good, October 9, black out in the northeast.
2007 Ken:
By Kenneth J. McCormick Webmaster About I know that well.
Facts Net Timothy Good:
Copyright © 2007 by About Facts Net and Yeah. I've got it here, here we are, page
its licensors. All rights reserved. 254. He was staying in New York at the
Permission is granted to reproduce this time and I can remember the stories in
article if no changes are made and all the American press about all that, but I
links, if any, remain intact. thought for the first time I would
Timothy Good is a famous British ufo include the story since so few people
investigator and the author of many ufo seem to be aware of it and it was
books. His latest, "Need To Know" is due actually November, it was the great
out at the end of this month and is a American power blackout of the 9th of
must read. It contains many interesting November and Stuart Whitman was alone in
new facts and will have you wondering why his hotel room in New York City during
we never knew about some of these things the blackout and was awoken just before
and where are we headed as a race? dawn by a whistling sound by his 12th
Ken, webmaster of About Facts Net. floor window, outside of which 2 strange
objects could be seen. One of them was
Audio of the interview is available on orange and one was blue, he explained to
the website. reporters. They gave off a strange
Timothy Good's latest book that is coming luminescent light so he couldn't see if
out at the end of this month. It is there were portholes or who was in them.
fascinating and I used it as a basis of He heard them speaking as if they were on
many of my questions. The book is "Need a loud speaker and they spoke to him in
To Know" and the publisher is Pegasus English. It may not have been audible to
Books. anyone else, he said. I was probably
Ken: tuned into the right wave length. They
First of all, I think that you have a said that they wanted to talk to me,
very unusual background for a ufo because I appeared to have no malice or
investigator and I think my readers would hate in my soul. They said that they were
like to know more about your musical fearful of Earth, because Earthlings were
background, could you tell us a little messing around with unknown quantities
bit more about that? that might disrupt the balance of the
Timothy Good: universe or their planet. They said that
Sure well, my father was a very the blackout was just a little
distinguished violinist and was among the demonstration of their power and that
first to broadcast recitals on the violin they could do a lot more with almost no
for the new BBC, the British Broadcasting effort. It served as a warning, they
Corporation back in the 1920s and said, that they could stop our whole
obviously it was in the family and I planet from functioning. They asked me to
started learning when I was 5 years old. do what I could to fight malice,
Ken: prejudice and hate on Earth, and then
That is very interesting. You are one of they took off. I felt elated, he
the world's preeminent ufo investigators continued, I wasn't even shocked. I was
and authors, tell us about some of the standing by the window and awake the
books you have written, including the new entire time. I don't know why they picked
book that is about to be released. me as a contact, but I'll swear on the
Timothy Good: bible that I saw them out there and that
Well Okay, the first book I actually they talked to me.
wrote was 'George Adamski The Untold Ken:
Story', which I coauthored with Lou for That is quite a story.
Louise Zinsstag, a lovely Swiss friend of Timothy Good:
mine who was a second cousin of Carl Isn't it?
Jung, the great psychologist, with whom Ken:
she used to discuss the ufo subject and It sure is.
Adamski in particular. I just felt that Timothy Good:
Adamski had been misrepresented quite a I wonder if he is contactable these days?
bit and the first part by Lou, who knew Ken:
Adamski for many many years and was his I don't even know if he is alive, do you?
Swiss coworker in fact and she had Timothy Good:
herself many unusual experiences along I don't. I think I'll have to Google him.
the lines of Adamski, together with other Ken:
coworkers, so she was convinced that he Yeah, that's a great idea. I would be
was very truthful about most things, but interested in what he has to say too. You
she became disturbed as did many of the talk about ufo activity in the Vietnam
other coworkers, much later in his life, War. Could you tell us some of the
by some of the things he was saying, but biggest cases that you know about?
she will always stand by the basic Timothy Good:
premise that he actually had contact with One of the most interesting ones was
extraterrestrials and that he met them given to me by Commander Will Miller,
here on planet Earth. My part was a sort Willard Miller. He was one of the
of critical evaluation of Adamski's disclosure project witnesses. He gave me
claims and I have to also confess that I this story. I went specially to meet in
myself have had 3 or 4 encounters with Florida to get this story from him. He
beings, that I am convinced were from said that he was onboard the USS Leary, a
elsewhere. One of them was very, very, US Navy destroyer during the 1969 cruise
similar to the female occupants of the in the Vietnam War.(Reading a passage
spaceships in which Adamski flew, way from Need To Know) Will was an Ensign at
back in the mid 1950s and that was that time, US Naval Reserve, now retired
absolutely extraordinary and that at the rank of Commander. He and some
experience was on the borders of crew members saw an object at a distance
California and Arizona and that was in in the Gulf of Tonkin and above the
1963 when I was touring with the Royal ground and they thought that they were
Philharmonic Orchestra, its a long story, sort of Vietnamese fishing craft with
but if you want to get into that later I lights and things, but then this thing
would be glad. In 1967 I had a far more started moving around with a completely
conclusive event, again telepathy was different glow than the one coming from
involved. It was a proof that there are the fishing boat. It then came towards
highly telepathic beings around who know them and moved from above the water to
more than we thought and that really below. It entered the water and moved
clinched it for me and that was back in rapidly toward our destroyer at 45
February of 1967, when I was touring, degrees to the bow, passing directly
well I was actually giving a series of beneath the ship. We ran to the starboard
concerts with the London Symphony side to see if the object had emerged,
Orchestra in Carnegie Hall. We were there but there was nothing. Nothing was seen
in 67 when I had that second and sort of on our sonar, our surface radar, our
cathartic encounter, that convinced me electronic counter measures system. What
that there are indeed some beings from ever it was, it wasn't a submarine. We
elsewhere, living on this planet. decided against waking the captain, but I
Ken: decided that a deck log entry be made of
Well maybe you could tell us what was the event, since we were required like
your first experience that really got you all naval vessels to report any unusual
into the field of ufo investigation? observations.
Timothy Good: All the ship's official logs were always
Well it goes back to 1955 Ken. I have re transcribed for official submission,
always been mad about aircraft and space this was what Will told me. Years later I
travel, so when an American cousin, a reviewed USS Leary's logs at the US Naval
really interesting guy really, Edmund C. HIstorical Center for the period of the
Berkeley, he was the first, I believe, to incident, but there was absolutely no
produce a magazine on computers back in record of the event in the official log
the 40s and it was called "Computers and book. Now this is actually quite common.
Automation" and we thought he was Ken:
completely bonkers. He was a brilliant Yes it is quite common
man, Harvard graduate and he gave me this Timothy Good:
book on flying saucers in 1955 and it was :I have many cases in the book, including
called, "The Flying Saucers Are Real", by a case in 1971 on a huge destroyer, in
Major Donald Keyhoe. He said Timothy, you which the logs were either changed or
love planes and spaceships, you need to just....
know about flying saucers. So that began Ken:
it, I read the book and I read all these This was a very common practice on the
reports by airline pilots, near aircraft carrier Roosevelt. They saw many
collisions with ufos, jet interceptors ufos.
sent to chase ufos all over the place and Timothy Good:
radar confirmed sightings, air traffic Absolutely. There are some correlations
controllers concerned all over the states of the low level sightings over aircraft
and abroad and that was it. I was hooked carriers, like in 1971, when I got a
and at that time I was in school, so I detailed report from an officer that held
couldn't get into any investigation at a top secret clearance, when a huge ufo
that time. That started in 1961, when I disrupted all operations on the aircraft
read Captain Edward Ruppelt's famous carrier John F. Kennedy. That's a very
book, "The Report On Unidentified Flying compelling case and I think that what's
Objects". Its a great classic and even by at issue here and what was of interest to
today's standards, it is an extraordinary those ufos is that those carriers were
work given that Reppult was an probably carrying hydrogen weapons That
intelligence officer and the first head is just my opinion, they are just letting
of Project Bluebook, which as you know us know that they know and that they can
started back in 1952 and he was convinced paralyze all our systems, you know, if it
that we indeed were being visited and came to it. There is also this report in
that all the proof was there. the book by a general at a press
Ken: conference about ufos and this is a 1973
Okay, I saw something that you were press conference. General George Brown
writing about in your new book, that I who was Chief of Staff of the Air Force
have never heard of before and it caught at the time. He was asked about what was
my eye. You mentioned that research was the US Air Force's position on the ufo
conducted into ufos by Mussolini in the business? (Reading from Need To Know) I
1930s. don't know whether this story has ever
Timothy Good: been told or not, replied the general,
It started with the landing of an they weren't called ufos, they were
unconventional aircraft, very called enemy helicopters. They were only
unconventional obviously, in 1933 near seen at night and only seen in certain
Milan. The crash landing, the first ufo places. They were seen up around the
retrievable story, dates back to 1933 way demilitarized zone in the early summer of
before Roswell and Mussolini who was a 68 and this resulted in quite a little
pilot, of course at the time he was a battle. In the course of this, an
sort of Fascist dictator of Italy, but he Australian destroyer took a hit. We never
was also a very keen pilot. He became found any enemy, we only found ourselves,
very gripped by these reports and it when this was sorted out. This caused
continued. There were reports in 1936 some shooting there and there was no
that Italian pilots chasing ufos could enemy at all and we always reacted and it
never get anywhere near them. There were was always after dark. He said that they
quite, quite vivid descriptions, I forget had moved the radar in and the army
how long it lasted, I think it was stared to work and we finally got that
certainly continued into the Second World radar out of there and they quit worrying
War. It was started in 1933 and called about their problem. Anyway it goes on,
the Special Research Unit number 33 or but I think obviously there was a lot of
RS33 for short and it was headed by stuff going on in Korea and in the Second
Marconi, the great Italian engineer who World War.
was one of the first to deal with radio Ken:
broadcasting and all that and there were I think now we are getting more
many other people like astronomers sophisticated and we realize what is
involved. Actually Marconi didn't get going on.
involved in many of the investigations, Timothy Good:
perhaps he had things he thought were Yes, yes indeed.
more important things to do. But Ken:
certainly this was a top secret unit that I was interested in that paragraph where
was established at that time to you talked about a triangular craft,
investigate the ufo phenomena. which we think of as mostly just sailing
Ken: across the sky noiselessly and not
You know its funny, most of us think that bothering anybody, attacking a Russian
we know most of this historical data, but radar facility.
new stuff keeps popping up. Most people Timothy Good:
in this country believe that Roswell was Yes.
the first purported crash landing of a Ken:
ufo with aliens aboard, yet in your book Maybe you could tell us a little bit
you claim that two years before Roswell a about that?
ufo crashed near Detroit, maybe you would Timothy Good:
tell us about that? Yes. This was in 1989, 1990, something
Timothy Good: like that. I need to find the page.
I learned this from a pilot, let me tell Ken:
you the story. In the late summer of You have a great memory I must say.
1945, the war was still going on and the Timothy Good:
Japanese had been sending these fugos Well thank you very much Ken, but at the
balloons, balloon bombs, over the states same time I am checking in the book for
and a few of them got as far as Michigan, all the facts, since I like to get my
but most of them fell into the Pacific facts right for your audience and I think
Ocean.They drifted by the air currents it was at a place called Kuybyshev in
and a few of them were successful, but I September of 1990. This is a very
think that only 2 or 3 people died on interesting case. It was given to me by a
examining these balloon bombs, when they journalist and engineer, a great friend
came down on the west coast. In July of mine Nikolay Lebedev in St.
1945, they were considered balloon bombs Petersburg. He investigated this case. It
over the Detroit area, an army airfield, happened on the 13th of September at a
Selfridge Air Field. They asked for a radar station 800 kilometers east,
pilot to volunteer to shoot down these southeast of Moscow, where the radar
Japanese things. They were convinced they picked up a large target at a range of no
were balloons and there were quite a few more than a hundred kilometers. It seems
of them over this airfield. So who to scatter on the screen and at 42
volunteered, but a Free French Air Force kilometers it changed into a strong
Pilot, who was of course on detachment signal representing an isosceles
with the United States Army Air Forces at triangle. Men came out of the underground
the time as a Thunderbolt trainer on bunker and the unknown object passed
P-47s. He went up and he told me that he directly over them at about ten meters.
took it absolutely beyond its service This is what some of the military men
ceiling, going full blast on the throttle said. "We could see it clearly since the
and he eventually got one of these perimeter of the base is always lit by
balloons in his sites and he let rip with searchlights". The bottom of the object
the eight machine guns in the wings of was smooth, but not mirror like, it was
the Thunderbolt and suddenly this thing, like a thick layer of soot. We did not
it looked like a sphere when he first notice any openings, portholes, or
watched it, suddenly flipped on its side landing gear, but we saw 3 whitish blue
and shot off at a phenomenal speed at beams of light. The corners of the object
right angles and he said to me, "THIS WAS were slightly rounded. Now two soldiers,
NO BALLOON!". two sentries were sent to investigate,
Ken: because this was a radar station, a
That's interesting portable radar unit. To cut a long story
Timothy Good: short, this thing actually landed by the
So you see a Frenchmen was the first to fence near the short range radar post and
try and defend the United States against it beamed light toward the number 12
alien invaders. I need to pick you up on radar unit and destroyed it and the beam
your original question, the crash of a of light, interestingly, passed right
plane, it was in Colorado near Denver. through one of the sentries without
This guy, Commander Jean Kisling told me injuring him, so it had absolutely no
that he learned a jet had been sent up to effect. Other people who were there at
shoot down a ufo and the plane itself had the time had missing time, they
been knocked out of the sky and crashed disappeared. Extraordinary case.
somewhere near Denver. Ken:
Ken: Yes it certainly is.
Ah ha Timothy Good:
Timothy Good: They said that each side of the triangle
It wasn't a ufo that actually came down was about 50 meters in length and that
near Denver at that time, but I have a about 50 yards I think. It landed with a
case from August of 1945, which took soft rustling sound. The thickness of the
place in New Mexico, which I have gone triangle was about 10 feet. A very, very
into in a little detail, it is quite an interesting event.
interesting story, it took place...I am Ken:
trying to think of exactly where, there Could you tell us about the event at
were these 2 boys, they were young boys Dublin Airport. That seems to be another
at the time and they were working on the very interesting event?
farm with their families and things on Timothy Good
horseback looking after the farm. The That seems to be a very disturbing case
boys names were Jose Padilla and Reme which I got from 2 of Ireland's top
Baca. The actual date of the event was researchers. Carl Nally and Dermot
late August, after the first atomic bomb Butler. This was in early January of
was exploded and near a place called San 2004, when an Aer Lingus Boeing 737 400
Antonito near San Antonio, New Mexico, series twin engined airliner was on its
somewhere near the border and they were final approach to Dublin Airport.
on horseback and they saw this brilliant According to witnesses, including the
light, accompanied by a crunching sound pilot on another aircraft, an Airbus 5 or
and eventually came upon a dull gray..., 6 miles behind in the landing pattern, a
they said it was an avocado shaped craft very large violet colored triangle came
that had a protuberance toward one end up from the ground. This was the night,
from which could be seen smoke from the it was 8:30 p.m. It came up from the
burning wreckage and they said that ground and described a series of
scattered among the debris were shiny tin harassing maneuvers in front of this
foil like pieces of metal and there was a Boeing 737 on its final approach. To cut
gash in the side of the craft thhough a long story short, the outside air
movement movement could be seen.... they temperature was heated up to about 164
were looking from a distance. There were degrees centigrade, it was violent
definitely humanoid like creatures moving turbulence, the wings of the plane were
around, Reme Baca told me in quick crinkled, the air brakes wouldn't work,
darting movements, making squeaking wouldn't raise properly and so they had
sounds. They said that it was like a to make an emergency landing, fortunately
rabbit that was being killed. The boys with no bad results. This was very, very
headed back to the ranch to tell the alarming for the crew and a similar thing
owner Falcina Padilla what had happened happened. The same triangular craft was
and he said that he and the others would seen harassing another plane, 2 hours
check it out in a day or two. That is a later at 10 :30 p.m. again on the final
strange reaction to a possible aircraft approach. Now we don't have any names of
crash with injured occupants, one would the crews, because everyone's frightened
think, but anyway 2 days later the owner of talking about it. It was officially
of the ranch with a state policeman and denied, even though we know the actual
the boys, headed for the crash site. At registration number of the airliner and
first they couldn't find anything, the we know that it was taken for repairs,
craft had been covered with dirt and obviously after this incident. Everything
debris to disguise it The creatures were is denied at an official level and one
gone and the huge debris field had been can see why, because if people came out
cleaned and raked over. Evidently the US with this officially....
Army had learned about the incident and Ken:
were going to pick it up later. Reme Baca No one would be flying anymore.
and Jose Padilla were able to watch the Timothy Good:
actual recovery operation from a distance Sure. Just when you were beginning to
with binoculars. Eventually there was one think that it was safe to go back into
period where, for a few hours, it wasn't the air
being guarded, the soldiers went down to (We both laughed at this one)
the local bar I believe, they didn't know Ken:
what they had at this time, quite Before I get into the next question, do
frankly. They claim to have gotten inside you think that we landed on the Moon? We
this craft, at least Jose told me that he actually did land on the Moon?
clamored onto the lowboy, where this Timothy Good:
craft had been strapped and readied to be Absolutely.
taken away to White Sands the next day Ken:
and they pried a souvenir piece from a Because a lot of people say the
bulkhead. I've seen it and examined it backgrounds aren't right, the shadows
and I am not convinced, it certainly aren't right.
appears to me very Earth like. It looks Timothy Good:
like a bracket of some kind, its 12 What happens is that pictures get touched
inches long and weighs 15 ounces and up just as they do in photographic models
contains a number of holes for fasteners and all sorts of things. You want to
of some kind. present the product in the best possible
Ken: light and if that means manipulating the
Has it ever been tested? pictures, it will be done. I think that
Timothy Good: thing about the shadows is that shadows
Yes a section was cut off, as well as do vary, unless you know the exact sort
acid tests reveal it to be 200 series or contours of the ground, the territory
aluminum or similar, which is hardly and everything, its very difficult to say
conclusive to me, even though evidently that this shadow shouldn't look like this
it is very light. It is a bracket of some and that shadow shouldn't look like that.
kind with counter sunk places where Ken:
screws could go in or bolts or whatever. Well one of the things people complain
I am just not convinced by that. about is that they claim that they found
Certainly the witnesses sound sincere to the same background in some of the
me, maybe the craft was something pictures, but the pictures were taken at
primitive. I don't know, but they were different locations.
young boys at the time, I think about 7 Timothy Good
and 9, or something like that, off the I need to look at the individual frames.
top of my head. But definitely, these All sorts of claims are made like, how
creatures looked very very strange. Reme come they didn't suffer from radiation.
told me that when they saw them, they had For heaven's sake those space suits were
dragonfly type eyes, as far as they could very well insulated against radiation and
make out from a distance. There were meteorites and things like that.
crashes in World War I and World War II Ken:
as well, in Hawaii for example. I've also What types of advancements do you think
got a case, there was one in Poland where that we have made from this alien
a craft came to ground with a very technology?
humanoid type female occupant on board Timothy Good:
and she asked this guy if he could help Put it like this, Ben Rich who was sort
her clear the craft, the craft had come of chief engineer of the Skunk Works,
down and half impacted into the sand and black projects and everything....
buried in the north Baltic coast. I find Ken:
that a very convincing story indeed, very Yes I understand.
compelling. So there were things before